If you still own or have control over the barrel or parts required to assemble the SBR or SBS, the firearm would still be subject to NFA transfer and possession regulations. ATF recommends contacting State law enforcement officials to ensure compliance with state and local law. (In Florida and some other states, possession of a barrel and receiver which could be made in a SBR or SBS is a crime unless the firearm is registered as a SBR or SBS under the NFA.)

If you do not have the barrel the firearm is no longer a SBR or SBS.

The Supreme Court has ruled today in an opinion by Judge Alito that the 2nd Amendment applies to the states through the 14th. More to come later. If you want to read the decision it’s posted on the Supreme Court Website – McDonald v. Chicago or from our website McDonald_v_Chicago.pdf

irs_logo.jpgUnfortunately, the answer is no. The ATF considers the trust as a separate legal entity and the tax must be paid for the additional transfer. Given that this is essentially an tax by the IRS, it would seem logical that the tax would be waived because a revocable trust is a pass through entity and not taxed. As far as I know this has not been challenged because it is only $200 for the transfer and the cost to fight it would be many thousands of dollars.

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While times have varied greatly over the last few years, it appears that the time your ATF Form 4 or Form 1 will take for approval seems to be tied to who the examiner is. A website NFATRACKER.com is collecting information on the times and offers some reporting on how long various transfers are taking. While the site is gaining speed and beginning to gather data, anyone who has a recent transfer should go and record your results. It is easy to create a login and select the type of item and whether you were an individual trust or corporation and the dates that certain events took place. So far we do not know how or if there is a way to pick who your examiner is by what the name of your trust is. The site’s manager has stated that one reader seems to have found that there is some correlation between the name of the dealer and the examiner but it is still unknown if you can do anything to improve the time you trust takes for approval. If we figure anything out we will keep you updated. If you need help finding a local NFA Gun Trust attorney, have questions about a trust, or want to create a Valid NFA trust Contact Us.

Some dealers are currently providing trusts to their customers to avoid the Chief Law Enforcement Officer (the “CLEO”) sign-off that is required for individual purchasers of Title II Firearms. When a non-lawyer dealer fills out or creates a trust for an individual they are violating their state’s unauthorized practice of law (“UPL”) statutes. Many dealers and manufactures are providing generic trusts that do not address the unique issues of the NFA and often do not comply with the state requirements for proper execution. In the past, the ATF has accepted many of these invalid trusts and approved the transfer of these firearms. Unfortunately for such individuals, if the trust is invalid, the possession that has been approved did not take place, and the individual or individuals who are in possession or using the items are in violation of the NFA. These dealers are taking a big risk in providing improper trusts to their customers. They are not only violating the state UPL statutes, but can also be liable for violating the NFA, in addition to civil liability for the bad advice which results in the consumers’ property loss, civil penalties, and/or criminal prosecution.

Be careful when copying a form or getting a trust from someone who is not a licensed attorney. Many individuals ask why we work exclusively with local licensed attorneys in each state. We do this to maintain the quality of our documents and to make sure that a licensed attorney in your state reviews the documents and makes changes based upon your local state laws.

If you want to create your own Gun Trust without a lawyer, there is a real online Gun Trust that can be created in less than 10 minutes.

If you want to create a gun trust with the help of a Gun Trust Lawyer® Contact Us to begin the process.

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