One of Clients has submitted a comment to 41P and given us permission to post a copy as it is not likely that it will appear on the published comments before the time to respond has closed. You may want to use parts of this comment to help you express your personal experiences or situation.

In summary, this comment discusses

  • ATF has failed to show any real benefits from its proposed rule;

Below Summary of the issues covered in Attorney Glenn Bellamy’s 41P comments and exhibits:

  1. The Requirement of a local CLEO certification is not statutory in origin and exceeds the ATF’s statutory authority, making the proposed regulations vulnerable to attack.
  2. The regulatory requirement of a local CLEO certification imposes a discretionary third party approval that exceeds the statutory authority.

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The Michigan Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday unanimously approved legislation that would lift the state’s ban on short-barreled shotguns and rifles.

Senate Bill 610 would align Michigan with more than 40 other states that allow residents to own such guns if they meet federal requirements.

The current Michigan regulations prohibit people from manufacturing, selling, offering for sale or possessing a short-barreled shotgun or rifle. There is an exception allowing ownership of an antique gun unlikely to be used as a weapon. Often if the gun is modified it no longer remains the C&R status of an antique gun.

Today we were on the Tom Gresham’s radio show Gun Talk talking about the proposed changes to procedure used by the ATF for obtaining approvals for Form 1s and Form 4s. While talking with him we mentioned that we would post a sample letter that listeners could use to help oppose 41P.

While there are many CLEOs around the country who will not sign a Form 4 or Form 1 regardless of who it is for, the ATF is suggesting that many of those may be willing to sign the Modified CLEO that they are proposing. From those we have spoken to so far, we do not believe that there will be CLEOs available in areas in the future where they are not presently available.

We are asking our clients and others who want to help to send a letter to their CLEO asking if they will sign the modified CLEO signature.

In response to 41P we have asked others to send and inquiry to their local police to determine if ATF’s proposed changed to the CLEO signature would make a difference in the policy to provide or not to provide signatures on Form 1 or Form 4 applications. Below is the type of response we are looking for to provide in future comments to the ATF. If you have received a response from your local police department, please print a copy of your inquiry, the response and draft a short verified statement telling your story . Sign it under penalty of perjury and then send it to us to be submitted in additional comments that are being prepared.

Response from Orlando Police Orlando-police-letter.pdf

Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:25 PM Dear Mr. Myers:

While many people will be waiting to the last-minute to file their comments to 41P, we felt that it was important to file something sooner to provide our clients and readers some guidance on preparing comments. We have created a webpage which contains our comments, exhibits, as well as a copy of 41P as published in the registry. As the comments and exhibits are over 140 pages we have included an index to the comments to help you find the information in which you have the most interest.

While we are very familiar with the NFA and ATF, administrative rule making is not something that we deal with. It is for this reason and to make sure we preserve the right to appeal any outcome that we have hired Tom Odom at the Firearms Industry Consulting Group. They are one of the finest lawyers that we work with around the country. If you are looking to have a professionally written response tailored to your involvement or objectives, I would highly recommend contacting us or them and we would be happy to help with the process.

With the exception of the ATF’s proposal to add new section 479.90 with respect to decedents’ estates, David M. Goldman opposes the remainder of the proposed rule making for the reasons set forth below and in the Exhibits to these Comments incorporated herein by reference.

Hawaii NFA Class 3 firearmsThere are several type of Title II firearms which are sold by Class 3 SOT FFLs that are restricted by the National Firearms Act.

Each state can impose additional restrictions on the sale, purchase, and transfer of these Title II firearms in addition to the compliance that is required with the National Firearms Act.

In Hawaii you can own the following items that are regulated the the National Firearms Act

Individuals cannot own any NFA firearms which are kept within HI.

We are often asked are silencers legal in my state? While you can look at which NFA firearms are legal in each state by selecting it in the pull down menu on the right, we have put together this list to make it easy for you to know if they are legal in your state.

Silencers are legal in

AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, CT, FL, GA, IA (as of 3/31/16), ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MI, MS, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WV, WI, AND WY

ATF is answering their phones and the electronic filing is back online at http://www.atfonline.gov.

ATF reported today that they the payments are back online as of 10/22 but previously reported that they are having problems with the payments. In an email they reported:

This is to advise that ATF eForms is experiencing issues with the pay.gov link that prevents the filing of taxpaid eForms 1 and 4. The pay.gov function had to move to a secondary site last week due to some of its own issues. ATF’s firewall security is preventing communications to this secondary site from within eForms. We are in the process of working with the Department of Justice to allow the ATF firewall to communicate with the pay.gov secondary site.

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