Gun Trusts and 41P: How can you help?

Today we were on the Tom Gresham’s radio show Gun Talk talking about the proposed changes to procedure used by the ATF for obtaining approvals for Form 1s and Form 4s. While talking with him we mentioned that we would post a sample letter that listeners could use to help oppose 41P.

While there are many CLEOs around the country who will not sign a Form 4 or Form 1 regardless of who it is for, the ATF is suggesting that many of those may be willing to sign the Modified CLEO that they are proposing. From those we have spoken to so far, we do not believe that there will be CLEOs available in areas in the future where they are not presently available.

We are asking our clients and others who want to help to send a letter to their CLEO asking if they will sign the modified CLEO signature.

Here is a proposed letter that you can send your local Sheriff. You can modify the letter to fit your situation and circumstances.

Re: Completion of ATF Form 4
Dear Sheriff:

I am a resident of _______ County and was wanting to purchase a Suppressor. I understand that the ATF is proposing changing the CLEO certification and was wondering if you will are going to sign the CLEO certification as is being proposed by the ATF.

Do you sign Form 4s currently?

If, indeed, you do not sign any Form 4s for the purchase of a noise suppressor, I must ask whether you anticipate changing that practice in light of ATF’s proposal to change the wording of the certification. Currently the Form 4 asks you (or another chief law enforcement officer) to certify that you have “no information indicating that the receipt or possession of the firearm would place the transferee in violation of state or local law or that the transferee will use the firearm for other than lawful purposes.” ATF proposes to change the Form 4 so as to request that you (or another chief law enforcement officer) certify that you have “no information indicating that possession of the firearm by the transferee would be in violation of state or local law.”

If you do anticipate that you will sign a Form 4 with the revised certification language, I may well wait to purchase a noise suppressor until ATF completes the revision.

Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter.


(Your signature)

We are looking for responses prior to November 15th so that we can incorporate them into another comment to be filed in opposition of 41P. If you would like to read our current comment, please visit

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