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        <description>A legal blog that covers National Firearms Act gun trust law, news and events dealing with gun trusts law. Written by Jacksonville, Florida Gun Trust Attorney David M. Goldman</description>
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            <title>Original Trust or Copy to ATF with Form 4 or Form 1</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p><img alt="EmbosserNB.jpg" src="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/EmbosserNB.jpg" width="209" height="209" class="mt-image-left" style="float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;" />We often get asked questions regarding sending the original trust to the ATF.  You should never send your original trust. You should only send a copy.  The ATF have been known to have lost applications in the past and they never send back your original trust.</p>

<p>If your Gun Trust was novelized with a raised seal, you should shade the seal with a pencil and then send a photocopy of the trust.  This way the seal will show in the photo copy.  Most jurisdictions have gone away from using raised seals because of the problems they create when copying.  </p>]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:41:09 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Georgia Senate Passes legislation to legalize hunting with a silencer</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>On Jan 31st the Georgia Senate passed a bill to authorize the use of silencers on hunting firearms under certain circumstances and repeal conflicting laws.  On Feb 1st 2012 the bill was sent to the house.  Here is a <a target="_blank" href="http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display/20112012/SB/301">link</a> to see the current status and the bill.</p>]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:31:18 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Indiana Senate passes bill regarding hunting with a silencer</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Indiana is about to legalize hunting with a silencer as long as used legally and with the permission of the owner of private property.  Illegal use of a silencer would be either a Class C or Class B misdemeanor.  For the text of the bill or current status follow this <a target="_blank" href="http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/billinfo?year=2012&session=1&request=getBill&docno=243#latest_info">link</a>.<br />
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            <pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:38:14 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Bonnie and Clyde Thompson Machine Gun Sold for over $150,000</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/assets_c/2012/01/thompson-auction-thumb-450x333-5182.jpg"><img alt="Thumbnail image for thompson-auction.jpg" src="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/assets_c/2012/01/thompson-auction-thumb-450x333-5182-thumb-250x185-5183.jpg" width="250" height="185" class="mt-image-left" style="float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;" /></a>I knew this one would sell for a high price but had no idea that anyone would pay such a large amount of money for this Gun.  While the gun sold for <a href="http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=195&aid=47757&lid=12247315#topoflot" target="_blank">$130,000</a> there was a 17% buyers premium which brought the actual cost of the firearm to over $150,000.</p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/02/bonnie-and-clyde-thompson-mach-1.html</link>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:57:25 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Masterpiece Arms Suppressor announced at Shot Show</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p><img alt="masterpiece_suppressor1.jpg" src="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/masterpiece_suppressor1.jpg" width="250" height="167" class="mt-image-left" style="float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;" />Masterpiece Arms, manufacturer of Semi Automatic SMG Pistols and Carbines and Subcompact Conceal Carry Semi Auto Pistols, is expanding their product offering to include 3 new 22 LR Sound Suppressors starting at less $249.99.</p>

<p>These are low-cost suppressors but no data on sound suppression has been released intentionally  They state:</p>

<blockquote>As a relative newcomer to the suppressor market, one of the challenging decisions is whether or not to publish decibel reduction data. One of the things we have learned, as with many industries where technical data may tend to provide a false representation of the quality of a product, is that an appropriate level of skepticism to the reported db data provided by many suppressor manufacturers exists.

<p>DB Equipment variances, lack of a unified testing procedure, and the inability for objective testing groups to be able to replicate the data provided by many manufacturers has led us to the decision not to publish db data as a method of evaluating our product.</p>

<p>As an educated buyer, in the case of suppressors, one should tend to look past the results of decibel reduction as the final say in determining which suppressor meets their needs. Factors such as quality of product, manufacturing techniques, customer service, ease of maintenance, materials used and most importantly, the quality of sound reduction as heard by the shooter are items that will serve the educated buyer well once they have made the decision to purchase a specific suppressor. Rely on your local Class III FFL to provide expert advice, listen to various suppressors and the quality of sound they produce on a similar weapon, and research the company behind the product.</p>

<p>Don't get me wrong, we do meter our products quite extensively. It's one of the many tools used to help quantify our products. It's a very handy tool to benchmark performance and to help us determine if design enhancements are taking us in the right direction. However, we feel its more important to focus on improving the overall performance of our product as compared to focusing exclusively on designing a suppressor that produces the lowest db reading on our testing equipment under the most ideal testing parameters.</blockquote><br />
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            <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:02:23 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Can I own a pistol and a shoulder stock that can be attached or is this a violation of the NFA?</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Owning a pistol and a shoulder stock that can be attached where the barrel is less than 16 inches and the length of the firearm is less than 26 inches is a violation of the NFA without an approved Form 1.  </p>

<p>There are certain exceptions for some items which have been removed from the NFA under C&R such as an original and unmodified Mauser "Broomhandle" and some Lugers. Remember that the NFA use to permit modification to C&R but no longer does. If you have a gun that was C&R and then modified, it most likely does not maintain the C&R status of the firearm.</p>

<p>This was common in California and if you are in possession of these items, it is our belief that you are no longer permitted to be in possession and you should check with the lawyers we work with in California understand your rights and obligations.</p>]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:33:17 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>How Much Does it cost to be a Class III Dealer, Manufacture, or Importer?</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Besides complying with the other requirements for being a FFL, if you want to become a manufacture, seller, or importer of Title II firearms there are several licenses you may need. These include the following and the fees are yearly fees.</p>

<blockquote>1. Importer of Title II Firearms  $1000.00<br>2. Manufacturer of Title II Firearms  $1000.00<br>3. Dealer of Title II Firearms $500.00  ( This is the Class III Special Occupational Tax)</blockquote>

<p>If your gross revenues from the previous tax year were less than $500,000 then you may qualify for a reduced rate as follows.<br />
<blockquote>1. Importer of Title II Firearms  $500.00<br />
2. Manufacturer of Title II Firearms  $500.00</blockquote></p>

<p>Note: Having a Class 3 SOT license will not permit you to have or use a non-trasferrable machine gun for personal use.  The ATF takes a close look at these transactions and no one should attempt to do this as an inexpensive way to own a machine gun as it could be a very expensive lesson.</p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/01/how-much-does-it-cost-to-be-a.html</link>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:17:37 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Bonnie and Clyde Thompson Machine Gun up for Auction</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/thompson-auction.jpg"><img alt="thompson-auction.jpg" src="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/assets_c/2012/01/thompson-auction-thumb-450x333-5182.jpg" width="450" height="333" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a>This historic Tommy Gun is believed to have been owned and used by the outlaws Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker. The seller's great-grandfather, who was in law enforcement at the time, was given the gun by another peace officer who had seized the weapon after a raid on the pair in Joplin, Missouri in April of 1933.</p>

<p>Just months previous to the raid, Bonnie & Clyde kidnapped a police officer by the name of Thomas Persell. Persell recounted the events of the abduction for the Springfield Daily News and the Joplin Globe, mentioning each time the "Tommy Gun" Mrs. Parker proudly held. </p>

<p>The raid occurred at the height of the duo's crime rampage that cut a wide swath across middle American during the Great Depression. The raid did not produce any arrests. The two had a knack for being one step ahead of law enforcement, but it did yield a cache of weapons, plus a camera. The guns have been in the family of Mark Lairmore and his sisters, the sellers, from Springfield, MO., ever since the unknown Depression-era police officer gave them to their great-grandfather. </p>

<p>Mr. Melton Lairmore, Mark Lairmore's father, registered the Thompson Sub-machine Gun under the name of Lairmore Armored Car Inc. in 1968 inaccordance with the Gun Control Act of 1968. </p>

<p>In a photo available on our website, Melton Lairmore, operator of an armored car service in Springfield, presents two guns taken from the car of famed 1930's gangsters Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow to Springfield Police Chief Gordon Loveland.</p>

<p>Lairmore loaned the .45 Thompson sub-machine gun and the 12-guage Winchester shotgun to police for use in displays during Crime Prevention Month and in the future police museum in the old city jail. </p>

<p>The weapons were displayed in the Springfield Missouri Police Museum, also known as The Calaboose, from 1973 until 2011 </p>

<p>To see the current price or try to buy it,  Here is the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?ahid=195&aid=47757&lid=12247315#topoflot">link to the auction</a>.<br />
</p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/01/bonnie-and-clyde-thompson-mach.html</link>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:06:20 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>May a private citizen who owns an NFA firearm which is not registered have the firearm registered?</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>No. The NFA permits only manufacturers, makers, and importers to register firearms. Mere<br />
possessors may not register firearms. An unregistered NFA firearm is a contraband firearm,<br />
and it is unlawful to possess, purchase, sell, or use the weapon.  There are certain exceptions for items that were brought back from a war and where there is documentation showing that there was permission to bring the items back to the United States.  While the ATF is under no obligation to do so, we have seen several cased where these items were presumed to have been registered and were put into the NFA registry.  Otherwise, the possessor should contact the nearest ATF office to arrange for its disposition.</p>

<p>Violators may be fined not more than $250,000, and imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. In addition, any vessel, vehicle or aircraft used to transport, conceal or possess an  unregistered NFA firearm is subject to seizure and forfeiture, as is the weapon itself.</p>

<p>[49 U.S.C. 781-788, 26 U.S.C. 5861 and 5872]</p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/01/may-a-private-citizen-who-owns.html</link>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:11:18 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>H &amp; K Briefcase Machine Gun</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/IMG_1316.jpg"><img alt="H&amp;Kbriefcasegmachine.jpg" src="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/assets_c/2012/01/IMG_1316-thumb-250x237-5180.jpg" width="250" height="237" class="mt-image-left" style="float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;" /></a>  In the NFATCA booth,  Jeff was showing one of his H&K Briefcase guns in full auto.  Current price on these which are pre 86 transferrable is around 20K.  If you are looking for the briefcase alone to add a semi automatic, you will need a $5 AOW tax stamp and around $2000 for the case alone.</p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/01/h-k-briefcase-machine-gun.html</link>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:43:19 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>KelTec&apos;s new threaded 22 PMR-30</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/IMG_1312.jpg"><img alt="IMG_1312.jpg" src="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/assets_c/2012/01/IMG_1312-thumb-250x202-5178.jpg" width="250" height="202" class="mt-image-left" style="float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;" /></a>KelTec showed several new guns at the Shot Show Today.  They included  a new version of their PMR-30 which is a light weight, full size pistol chambered for the flat-shooting .22 Magnum cartridge (.22WMR). The PMR-30 operates on a unique hybrid blowback/locked-breech system. This operation system allows for the use of a wide variety of ammunition as it seamlessly adjusts between locked breach and blowback operation, depending on the pressure of the cartridge. It uses a double stack magazine of a new design that holds 30 rounds and fits completely in the grip of the pistol. The trigger is a crisp single action with an over-travel stop. The manual safety is a thumb activated ambidextrous safety lever (up for SAFE, down for FIRE). The slide locks back after the last shot and a manual slide lock lever is also provided. The light, crisp trigger pull and fiber optic sights make the PMR-30 ideal for target shooting and hunting small game.</p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/01/keltecs-new-threaded-22-pmr-30.html</link>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:37:05 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>ATF arrestes 49 for Violations including possession of SBS</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>Several Atlanta residents were recently sentenced to serve time after being convicted on varying federal firearms and narcotic related charges, according to information received from agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). These sentences are a result of an ATF initiated undercover operation, called <a target="_blank" href="http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2012/01/011712-atl-first-round-of-defendants-sentenced-in-atf-atlanta-undercover-investigation.html">ATL Blaze</a>. Undercover agents, placed themselves in positions ultimately putting the word out that they were interested in buying firearms and drugs from the criminal element. The case yielded 257 handguns, 60 rifles, 46 shotguns, and 10 short-barreled sawed-off shotguns taken off the streets of Atlanta. Forty-nine defendants were indicted on charges ranging from conspiring to commit a home robbery, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, possession of an unregistered short-barreled rifle, possession of a stolen firearm, unlawful dealing in firearms without a license, possession of controlled substances with intent to distribute, and aggravated identity theft. The case was investigated by ATF Atlanta Field Division in conjunction with the Atlanta Police Department (APD).</p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/01/atf-arrestes-49-for-violations.html</link>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:50:04 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>May a FFL or an individual legally possess the parts to manufacture an SBR or SBS as long as no firearms are actually assembled?</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>It appears that ATF does not permit individuals to own the parts necessary to make a SBR or SBS prior to receiving their permission to manufacture / assemble the items.  Because of this is it recommended that the same person should not purchase all of the items necessary to make a SBR or SBS and if they do, they should not take all of them home from the dealer.  As a barrel can often be attached to several guns, it would be prudent to leave the barrel at your Class III dealer prior to receiving an approved ATF Form 1. </p>

<p>This information comes from a similar question and is found on the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-short-barreled-rifles-shotguns.html">ATF website</a>.<br />
<blockquote>A FFL (Type-7 or Type-10) who pays the Special Occupational Tax (SOT) may possess the parts required to assemble NFA firearms (SBR or SBS). A non-licensee (individual, trust, corporation, or other business entity) or FFL who has not paid the SOT is<br />
required to register any NFA firearm via an ATF <a href="http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/form1.html" target="_blank">Form 1</a> (5320.1) prior to acquisition of the<br />
parts required to assemble such firearm.</blockquote></p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/01/may-a-ffl-or-an-individual-leg.html</link>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:58:05 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>May a FFL repair a silencer by replacing worn or damaged components? </title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>A person who is licensed under the Gun Control Act (GCA) to manufacture firearms and who has paid the special (occupational) tax to manufacture National Firearms Act (NFA) firearms may replace a component part or parts of a silencer as long as the repairs do not result in removal, obliteration, or alteration of the serial number.  If a silencer part bearing the serial number, other than the outer tube, must be replaced, the new part must be marked with the same serial number as the replacement part.<br />
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The term "repair" does not include replacement of the outer tube of the silencer. The replacement of the outer tube is so significant an event that it amounts to the "making" of a new silencer. As such, the new silencer must be marked, registered and transferred in accordance with the NFA and GCA. </p>

<p>In the event that identical replacement parts for a silencer are not available, new and different component parts may be used as long as the silencer retains the same dimensions and caliber. In addition, the repair may result in a minimal reduction in the length of the outer tube due to rethreading, but repair may not increase the length of the outer tube. Increasing the length of the outer tube significantly affects the performance of the silencer and results in the "making" of a new silencer. Reducing the length of the tube by a minimal amount in order to repair a silencer is often necessary to replace damaged end caps, as the tube must be rethreaded. Such minimal reduction of the length of the tube uses all of the original parts, does not significantly affect performance of the silencer, and may be done as part of a repair process without making a new silencer. </p>

<p>Persons other than qualified manufacturers may repair silencers, but replacement parts are "silencers" as defined in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(24) that must be registered and transferred in accordance with the NFA and GCA.</p>]]></description>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:42:35 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>What happens if I move to a state where my NFA firearms are not permitted?</title>
            <description><![CDATA[<p>If you own the firearms as an individual, the NFA firearms may be left in a safe deposit box in your former State of residence. The firearm can also be left or stored in the former State of residence at the house of a friend or relative in a locked room or container to which only the individual owner has a key. The friend or relative should be given a copy of the registration forms and a letter from you authorizing storage of the firearm at that location.</p>

<p>If you use a NFA Gun Trust, you can do the same as with an individual, but you may also leave them with another trustee or add someone as a trustee to leave the items with.  You should be cautious whom has access to the firearms as they could create some additional liability on your behalf and those who are involved with the trust.</p>]]></description>
            <link>http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2012/01/what-happens-if-i-move-to-a-st.html</link>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:27:47 -0500</pubDate>
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